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My Little Pony - Spike Stained Glass Suncatcher 9 by SenatorMars My Little Pony - Spike Stained Glass Suncatcher 9 by SenatorMars
Measures 11"x18" at 34 pieces of glass and just about 1 square foot of glass. Spike is about 95% done, but I was pretty excited to get him posted so forgive the lack of detail and hasty lighting. it's been rainy and overcast so I couldn't get a natural light picture, but I'll post one when I'm done. I hope you like it. Rarity is next, and I've posted an "in progress" picture of her just because. Doing this makes me so happy. FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC!!!!
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Falconsong Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Professional General Artist
Con't of last post: - instead of putting the weight on that tenuous edge.

I can't wait to see your Rarity one. I've been considering making some MLP glass suncatchers for some friends of mine for a while now. It's fun seeing other peoples works!

(UGH sorry for the split post, my trackpad on my laptop glytched as I was typing and posted the comment before I was done.)
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SenatorMars Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
How do you feel about finishing a sun catcher border in U came instead of foil and restrip? I feel like it would be easier and show cleaner lead lines, but I hear that the lead doesn't hold up over time in that setting and will eventually stretch and loosen up.
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Falconsong Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Professional General Artist
I've made full panels in lead and copper foil before and for clean lines nothing beats lead. I used lead on the suncatcher border on this one: [link] It has the same issue as using a copper foil border: if you don't put reinforcing in it (wire or restrip) or don't solder on a joint it will pull apart. It won't stretch and loosen up if it doesn't have weight put on it, especially most of the "modern" lead now which is not 100% lead but has something like 4% antimony added to make it sturdier. Neither is really better than the other just different uses and personal preferences.

My general rule of thumb is if I need a clean edge (like on a circle) I'll use lead, if my edge is very irregular/organic/detailed I'll use copper foil. Then again I also prefer to make large panels in lead instead of copper foil. It's more fun to me and less tedious. Copper foil for me at least is better on small things like sun catchers, and non flat things or really wild organic forms (like this [link]). I think my bosses dislike of copper foil is rubbing off on me a little bit after all these years.
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SenatorMars Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
I taught myself how to work with lead first, then learned how to foil and thought it was the greatest thing ever, now I'm starting to come back around to lead. Thanks for the advice on reinforcing, I'm self taught so I really appreciate the info
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Falconsong Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Professional General Artist
I always love looking at your work but I thought I'd give you a heads up, since I ran into this problem myself a long time ago when I made my first suncatchers: You need to put your hooks/hangers on solder joints, not on edges. When it's put on edges like you have it here the weight of the glass over time will cause that edge to part company from the glass, rip and fall and break. If it's in a window that gets sun this is doubly true because then it adds heat to that adhesive in the copper foil, making it much more likely to rip. Putting the hooks on places where there are joints makes the force pull on the joint where it's more structurally strong, instead of on the edge where it's only the copper foil's adhesive holding it on.

Ex: The red circle is where I'd put the hanger - [link] If you have to put a hanger on the edge like on that front green head spike, then I'd run a restrip ([link]) or a reinforcing wire underneath the solder on the edge (red line in the picture) to redirect that weight down the solder lines in the pannel instead of putting the weight on that t
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SenatorMars Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
No worries, Since this is my first free form sun catcher I researched reinforcement in perpetuity, the entire border of the piece has 14 gauge wire soldered around it. So the hooks aren't soldered to just one piece of glass that will eventually separate, they're soldered to a reinforced border that frames the glass. I ran the 14 gauge wire in one long strip with no solder joints(It was a pain in the ass) along the entirety of the border of the figure.

I really appreciate the advice though, and I'm glad you like my work. And believe me, since my windows have a lot of pieces and I have to foil most of them I've made restrip a close personal friend
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Falconsong Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Professional General Artist
Nicely done! You continually impress me with your work and level of detail in it. ^.^ I recall (possibly incorrectly) reading on one of your posts that you were self taught, and proper reinforcing was something I had to learn after working professionally in stained glass for years, so I felt I should chime in just in case. I see lots of people soldering it incorrectly and I can't help but cringe since it'll meet the floor rather messily in time.

Yeah, the wire running around the border really is a pain in the ass but worth the effort. It took me a while to figure out how to solder a clean and round enough border to hide the wire and make it strong on the pieces I've done that on. Soldering border edges is still something I don't quite enjoy.
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Belanie Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012
Wow...awesome!
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WhiteHeather Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
He looks adorable! I'll look forward to seeing the finished pictures :)
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